Talk:Unnamed Shinigami

Anyone want to advise on this: another possible reason for speculation about Light becoming a shinigami, Ryuk said that he'd make a good one at an earlier point. I don't have the reference immediately to hand, but is it worth adding?

Yeah it is worth saying and the episode is Rebirth(the first one) when he first met Ryuk. Although it is not the fans' final decision whether or not it is Light, we influence the decision of Obata and Ohba (although the decision would most likely be Obata's). By pointing that out you probably convinced a couple more fans that Obata and Ohba meant for him to be Light and convinced them that they have yet another reason to make him Light. Please next time sign it or create a new account and sign. Anybody can take credit for your work unless you sign it.Vladashram 01:47, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Keep in mind that not every rule in the Death Note has to be true, or any rule for that matter. Though unlikely, you're overlooking the possibility that the 'Mu rule' is fake entirely. Mhmm 08:34, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

If you had read the manag then you would know that in the 12th edition before Light dies Ryuk says that you can't go to heaven or hell, simply because there is no heaven or hell. Also nobody know how Shinigami are created unless there is some theory to that that i don't know about. SilentDeath1337 03:00, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Not 14 reasons they're the same - 15...
In the manga vol.8, ch. 66 page 115, Light says

"Things are gettign exited again!" A Ryuk quote and it also shows his face doing the same expression that Ryuk had...

What the hell does that mean? ' Beyond Lawliet Now a User! Beware the eyes and quirkyness! 23:16, March 8, 2011 (UTC) '

Could
could be matt, he wore goggles....

Exactly What I was Thinkin .... I think it is Matt.

Light would have notice ryuk, and knew how to get into the world of the living... unless his memories were deleted?

-jordanc007

I don't think so... Matt is Left handed. The unknown Shinigami uses his right hand when he pulls out his sythe, and he uses his right hand to throw the shinigami apple to Ryuk. I find it much more likely that this shinigami is indeed Light.

Possible origin for the Unnamed Shinigami.
For those who believe that Light is the mysterious shinigami. Please click on this link. Audio is not needed. Print my be small though. Near Wieb 06:39, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ue8fM2FBL_A&feature=related

Different realities (Anime and Manga)
It is possible that the Death Note ANIME and the MANGA are two different realities. Comparing the Anime and Manga there are slight differences that suggest the makers of the anime wanted to adapt the Manga towards their own satisfactions. Satisfactions that wanted Light Yagami to have an Afterlife (as a Shinigami). The evidence for this belief is:

These facts can suggest that the Anime and Manga are different realities and can support the idea that Light Yagami could have indeed been re-incarnated as the unnamed Shinigami seen in the Death note relight 1 film.
 * All the MU (Nothingness) facts seen in the Manga were not really mentioned in the Anime at all.
 * In the anime version of Death Note, Teru Mikami commits suicide with the fountain pen he used to write on the notebook and dies in the warehouse (it is seen that blood goes flying out from his chest) allowing Light to flee the warehouse. However in the Manga, Teru Mikami mysteriously dies in prison.
 * In the Manga ending Light’s death all takes place in the warehouse where he was finally unmasked as Kira, and it’s where Ryuk says to light that all Humans go to “MU (Nothingness)”. However in the Anime ending Light escapes the warehouse and later dies on a stairway and Ryuk’s statement of “MU (Nothingness)” was not said at all. This difference made was Possibly because the Death Note Anime makers wanted Light to have an afterlife, so they ended it in a way that made all this “MU (Nothingness)” irrelevant in the Anime therefore this could have lead to the existence of the Unnamed Shinigami.
 * And of course the unnamed Shinigami itself was only ever seen in the Death note Anime and never the Manga.

There are a few more differences as well, but I think it’s relevant for this information to be included on the Unnamed Shinigami page as well. Please add the possibility of the Anime and Manga being different realities to the page please. I’m convinced that the Shinigami is Light Yagami.

If you watch the last episode you will notice that the Card shown after the commercial break states "After They Die, the place they go is MU (Nothingness)." Despite being never being said in the dialoge this does confim the existence of MU in the anime reality. I will delete that chunk in the main page accordingly. 109.110.96.34 22:05, May 18, 2011 (UTC)Icarus109.110.96.34 22:05, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Looks like i cant edit can someone do that for me then.

You can edit it, you just need an account. This page is protected so that only registered users can change it. -KidVegetaO

I do have an account, its only letting me see the source for some reason.Omar Abbasi 06:40, May 19, 2011 (UTC)Icarus

The Card shown after the commercial break indeed said "After They Die, the place they go is MU (Nothingness)." But it is not enough to confirm the existence of MU in the anime reality. The Possibilities that can be considered, as said in the main page “some have theorized that the 'nothingness' described in the final rule could be the Shinigami Realm for humans that have used Death Notes, and never coming back to life could mean being reincarnated as a Shinigami.” Also the rule could be false, and ultimately the fact that L’s spirit is seen (in front of the dying light) at the end of the final episode really counter weighs your argument. Please leave the chunk alone :)

This is a wiki page, and needs to be cleaned up quite a bit. I guess I'll do it, if no one else wants to. -KidVegeta